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Old 06-12-2013
meziere meziere is offline
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For the sake of clarity, my brothers and I here at Meziere Enterprises felt it important to give some input here. There have been some pretty harsh words both about our product and about our integrity as a business. It is first of all important to note that we have developed these pumps primarily for engine cooling and not intercoolers. It is the nature of our industry for enthusiasts such as those found on this forum to take a solution from one system (engine cooling) and apply it to another. In this case it would be fine if the restrictions were similar but we have found the intercoolers and plumbing to be all over the board. Our centrifugal pumps will work great in some systems and not as well in others. The system needs to be engineered as a complete idea with all of the componenets working together. That's why the 281 Motorsports system works and IATs are reduced. He has done the real-world testing to prove it out before offering it as a solution to his customers.
In response to Hazmat's comment about rating the pumps at zero restriction, that has been the advertising standard long before we entered the marketplace. Pump graphs are definitely more appropriate and we fully understand that. Most consumers do not but we are happy to help anyone who calls in to our tech to determine if our pumps will be a good solution. We always indicate that the rating is "free flow" and we have not tried to hide anything or deceive anyone.
The 20 GPM pump was intended to be a good replacement for the "bilge pumps" that guys were using to cool their small block chevy dragsters. The product fulfills that requirement in excellent fashion and lasts thousands of hours longer than the pump it was intended to replace. Although early on we may have done a little bit of marketing to intercooler consumers, we quickly started to understand the complexity involved and the confusions that are being laid out here. I feel it is also important to reiterate - the 20GPM pump is less than half the cost of the EMP. Also, the base EMP pump consumes 50% more power (9 amps) and the reprogrammed pump is consuming 19 amps! These figures are on the Lingenfelter thread. Chalk this up to "You don't get something for nothing".
There is one more important item to be aware of when reading this graph. The notes indicate that the "stock diameter coolant hoses" were used. With centrifugal pumps the volume of water presented to the impeller is critical. That is why our 55 GPM pumps have very large inlet fittings. That is the only way to take full advantage of the torque of the pump and that is the reason our 55 GPM pump does not perform well in their test. This is just one more variable. I hope you are getting a sense of how these systems "live or die" by the details and how these graphs must be interpreted taking these variables into account.
Meziere Enterprises has been focused on truthful advertising, even when our competitors have not, and we are the only electric pump company to offer a 2 year warranty on all of our water pump products. We do our very best to operate with integrity. This will be our only post. If you have questions about your vehicle please feel free to call our tech line.
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