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Help: Kenne bell boost a pump install
07 s/c model install boost a pump, I believe I tap into the white wire? Please someone confirm! Its the most left wire when plug is connected to pump.
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This should help.
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Ohh! I see now, except mine didn't come with a control it just has a little thing on the side that goes all the way to the engine bay to go and read how much boost its making thus turning on the boost a pump I think.
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These are Brenspeeds instructions. They recommend installing it without the boost switch & the controller turned to max so I guess the boost a pump is always on.
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That's how I would like to run mine, except I dont have the control to dial it, but everything else is there. Ill try to install as is after and see how it runs.
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Both Brenspeed and JDM say that a boost a pump isn't needed for 3.6" pulley applications running their Saleen tune calibrations.. My understanding is the 3.6" pulley provides a max boost between 6-7.5 psi and is considered safe with the stock fuel system ? Anyway, let me know your thoughts and opinions on to whether my info is accurate ? Thanks, Rocky
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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I believe the stock pump could supply up to 400whp, dont quote me.
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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All I do know is.. Saleen includes the 3.875" pulley with the 475 HP upgrade kit and supposedly doesn't require upgrading the fuel system.. However I'm assuming that according to Saleen's description, this applies only for those running the Saleen PCM calibrations
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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According to Justin Burcham at JPC Racing, the stock fuel "system" can safely handle 450rwhp naturally aspirated and 400rwhp forced induction. The Saleen 475hp Upgrade was rated at the crank and with Saleen's conservative tune there is about 12-13 percent loss through the driveline to the rear wheels. This equates to about 415rwhp with the upgrade kit; so Saleen upgraded the fuel injectors to #39 to handle the small difference. It seems then, both JDM and Brenspeed agree with Burcham that a BAP, or other fuel pump upgrade, is not required with the 3.6 pulley as long as the stock #24 injectors are replaced with at least #39.
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Both Brenspeed & JDM told me you don't need it with the 3.6. JDM told me I don't really need it with a 3.4 but I think better safe than sorry. I've also heard guys say they where lean WOT with the 3.6. I got myself a wideband AF gauge to keep an eye on things since I'm using email tunes.
Last edited by tbar; 12-06-2014 at 08:35 PM. |
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Yeah, reason for my install is I want to drop to a 3.4 inch pully I believe better to be safe than sorry like tbar said.
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So in your opinion, is my car safe enough with the stock fuel system with an aftermarket tune ? or should I either install a BAP or step down to the 3.875 pulley instead ?
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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I've got a 3.4. I have Brenspeed & JDM tune for the same setup. The Brenspeed is around 11.7. The JDM tune was at 10.5 when I got it but they adjusted it to get it at around 11.7 too.
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I have the Brenspeed stage 3 kit with a local tune and a BAP with 463 rwhp and no problems. The BAP really wont do anything until you mash the throttle and it gives it that extra fuel boost (as the name says). Just cruising around town and what not the BAP isn't really doing much.
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08-045 S281 SC, Tuned by Pro-Dyno, 3.2 SC pulley, HT0 plugs, JLT series 3 CAI, vacuum upgrade, Kenne Bell BAP, MGW shifter, JBA catted H pipe, Moroso Oil Catch can, '11 mirrors, MMD hood struts, shorty antenna. 01-001 SC, Tuned by Pro Dyno, 2.8 SC pulley, MoSaleen, CAI, Off road X pipe, Mcleod Super Street clutch, H&R Super Sport springs, shorty antenna. |
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So are you saying that I shouldn't need a BAP running a 3.6 pulley with a Brenspeed or JDM tune ?
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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Stock fuel pump is good for the 3.6 pulley.
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If they don't include the BAP in the stage 1 or 2 package I would assume you would be fine without it. They know what they are doing over there.
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08-045 S281 SC, Tuned by Pro-Dyno, 3.2 SC pulley, HT0 plugs, JLT series 3 CAI, vacuum upgrade, Kenne Bell BAP, MGW shifter, JBA catted H pipe, Moroso Oil Catch can, '11 mirrors, MMD hood struts, shorty antenna. 01-001 SC, Tuned by Pro Dyno, 2.8 SC pulley, MoSaleen, CAI, Off road X pipe, Mcleod Super Street clutch, H&R Super Sport springs, shorty antenna. |
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I suppose it's always best in having the air/fuel checked by a local dyno shop to make certain the stock fuel pump is providing enough fuel just to be on the safe side and having that additional piece of mind to go along with it as well
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Saleen series VI S/C - 39lb injectors - 3.6" pulley - Eibach pro kit springs - Borla ATAK mufflers - Pypes cut n clamp X mid-pipe to OEM cats - Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires 275/40/18" square - GT500 strut mounts - Hurst short throw shifter - CFM billet oil cap breather - UPR 4 chamber catch can - Eibach camber bolts - OEM GT500 18x9.5 wheels - Koni adj sport struts/shocks - BMR poly adj panhard bar - Saleen extreme 98mm stock airbox - Autolite HT0 spark plugs - JDM 91 oct performance tune. |
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What an engine can take is relative to more than just HP.
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