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help #335 gettin smoked
I have 88 saleen #335. i bought it pretty recently with some upgrades already on and have done a little so far i feel like i have a ton of torque and decent power and she sounds amazing but i am still getting beat by little imports with engine swaps and ####. I was wandering in wat direction i should go to start mopping the streets with these little ricers around where i live. here is wat i have done:
supposedly stroked to a 331 (no papers when i bought it) Mild cam saleen/vortech upper and lower polished intake cold air MAF conversion 70mm tb and egr spacer stock heads i think (choking the 331????) billet flywheel centerforce clutch aluminum driveshaft shorty headers h-pipe and flowmasters and i am guessing a fuel pump bc that #### is loud when i turn the key haha Any advice on wat i should do next??? i am thinking underdrives and adj. fuel pressure regulator. not to familiar with the tuning process on obd1 computers or even if it is worth it at this point. looking for reasonable advice, i know ill get the post that says boost the #### out of it!!! but i am thinking a little more practical here ha. thanx |
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Uh VORTECH that thing!
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Practical means getting beat by imports. You will need to get a power adder on that thing. Every car from the factory now a days comes with more and more hp. A naturally aspirated 5.0 cut the mustard in the late 80's, early 90's. Today in my opinion, you will need at least 450-500 RWHP to beat a good number of those motor swapped hondas on the street.
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If you don't want to s/c it, a good way to put power down is a set of gears...3.73 is a good street ratio but if you really want to go and don't mind some decline in MPG go with 4.10s.
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Try doing HCI first. If thats not enough power to stomp imports then go blower or turbo. But the deeper you go the driveability goes away.
I have GT40X heads, ecam, cobra intake, with upgraded injectors and spark. Its quick enough to smack down some imports but i'm not sold on going any deeper because I sure like to drive my car everywhere and it be reliable still with AC blasting. I just drove my car down almost over 1k miles to the Knotts show from sac, not one hiccup, and AC blasting. My IRS coupe with a V2 blower would have never made it but it will smoke more than just a couple imports. Trickflow has a good kit to start off with if your buying new. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K514-360350B
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Like Wiggy said, gears! Cheapest way to get get 'er movin!
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I agree with the trick flow top end kit. Def will wake it quite a bit and one of the best bang for the buck top end kits just in the amount of extra parts in kit alone. Personally i would go with track heat version.
I dont know if u would want to go this route but on3 performance makes a great turbo kit for amazing price and have experience with kit and many other friends running kit with no issues with great power. Just cpl things for u to think about and choose but heads will wake it up if u only go that route with what u have already.
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heads
Is there any way to tell by looking at my heads if they are stock or maybe a gt40 or something???? they look stock but im not too familiar with 302's yet. this is my second fox. the first one i had for 1 month and all i did was put tires on it before i got rearended at a light and it was totaled. :(
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Motor is a 331 stroker (bored from factory block) Heads are stock with 3 angle valve job and new springs. Cam is a Trick Flow Stage 1 and it has 3.55 gears in the rear.
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I just put a 306 with the TFS top end kit and 24lbers, 70mm MAF, bigger throttle body, etc. I used my GT40 tubular intake because I bought the engine without the intake, it screams and makes great power for a street car. It will burn tires 1st through 3rd no prob. If you do heads you should also do injectors and bigger fuel pump and adj regulator and get a chip. The TFS kit is nice because it is all matched and tested, and they give you just about everything.
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yeah, this is a no brainer given the mods, get a used vortech s-trim or larger.
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Spray it......cheap and effective.
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Imports
You have the intake and the cam your missing the right heads! Then put some juice on it. I would go any further then 373's if your going to drive it. If you do that they will be reading your license plate!
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So it has been a while since i posted on this thread but i got some new toys for #335.
AFR 185cc heads comp cams XE282HR cam underdrive pulleys scorpion 1.6 roller rockers chrome valve covers I pulled the engine out last week and am slowly taking my time in checking the bottom end which is a 331 (finally know for sure) and putting on the new parts. |
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any thoughts on the combo i picked up and wat i will expect to see
Last edited by $aleen#335; 08-22-2012 at 02:33 PM. Reason: posted twice |
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I also had it dynoed so i could know the before and after hp and she pulled 233 rwhp and 287 lbft
I am going to get it tuned and dynoed again once i put the new parts on and hope for over 300 |
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Hey lil list of parts u got there. Sorry have been working a lot and have not gotten on here too much. You will be really happy with that set up and should pull well over 300.
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