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Old 05-03-2012
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Default Alcon 13" Rear Brake Install with Pics

I've received a few questions regarding the rear brakes on my car. I recently purchased this kit from Stage 3 MS, however the kit does not come with instructions. Its is the Alcon Roush kit with 13" rotors and uses stock calipers. Another member contacted me with a few questions so I thought I would share what I learned during the install.

First a few odds and ends. During my intial observations, I thought no way the ebrake cable will be long enough and no way the brake line is going to work either. Don't be discouraged though, it will work. Here are a few points to consider during your install. Also here are some pictures that I took along the way. These will help you calibrate. Left is drivers side for reference also.

Steps:

1. Remove old brake caliper

2. Remove old brake caliper bracket

3. Remove old rotor

You will not need these pieces so put them to the side

4. Remove 2 brackets securing the ebrake cable. 1 is on the control arm, and 1 is a small holder with an 8mm bolt under the front of the wheel well. This will help get some slack in the ebrake cable and also alllow you to pull it out of the body about 1 inch. Should be all you need.

**Do not remove the ebrake cable from the caliper. Also do not remove the little coil spring on the caliper. If you do, be prepared to wrestle with it over a few beers. I did that on the first side but I found it was not necessary. The cable does not disconnect very easily and its even harder to get back in. First side took me 4 hours to get together, second side took about 30 mins BTW. Follow these steps for the 30 min per side version.

5. Loosen the "Moan Brace" that is attached to the axle. Its the black bracket behind the hub and looks like it is attached like a muffler clamp. It will need to slide over about 1/2 inch to allow the Alcon Silver bracket to fit between it and the back of the spindle. Pics attached to show this. It is going to slide over as far as it can go and rest against the control arm mount. Its tight but it fits.

6. Clean all mating surfaces with a wire brush or sand paper. Knock of rust so that everything bolts up nice. Also scrape any loose rust off the spindle between the lug studs. This will allow the rotor to seat well. I added grease to the hub so that it would come apart easily later too.

7. Bolt on the Alcon bracket as shown in the pic below. Notice that you may need to dremel the tin rotor shield if it interferes. I had to trim on the drivers side but not on the passenger side.

8. Once the bracket is bolted up, tighten the muffler like clamp on the moan brace.

9. Put the Rotor on. Secure with 1 lug nut to hold it on ther while working.

10. Bolt on the new FORD black caliper bracket supplied with the kit.

11. Install the pads. Grease contact points with the supplied grease. Backs of the pads and slide points as shown in the pics.

12. Compress the caliper pistons. You will need a special tool available from Harbor Freight. Its called a brake caliper kit. The reason that it important is because the rear pistons require rotation while compressing. They do not just compress like front calipers. They rotate clockwise while compressing on both calipers. This is easy with the caliper tool kit, and near impossible without. Here it is for reference. http://www.harborfreight.com/18-piec...kit-97143.html

**Note: When you compress the piston, the brake fluid will push back up to the master cylinder. If you want to avoid pushing dirty fluid back through the system, crack the bleeder valve open while you are compressing. This will allow the piston to compress and shoot the dirty fluid out into a pan. If you do this method, you should bleed the lines after. I recommend this method.

13. Give the ebrake cable a tug out of the body under the back seat. It will move a little; maybe an inch or so. Pull the caliper up and on the pads. Bolt it on.

14. Looks good right? Go have a beer.

15. Reinstall the ebrake cable brackets.

16. I bled my brakes while I was in there to get fresh fluid in the lines. However it was a choice. I never did remove the brake line so please take note.

17. Go out and enjoy your Saleen.

If anyone detects that I missed a step here please let me know. My wife is calling so I am hurrying through this.
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The "Moan Brace" and the stack of the brackets...
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The cable brackets to disconnect and then the finished products...
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Old 05-06-2012
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I do agree that the rear brakes do need an upgrade, but i don't see a lot of advantage in this kit while you still have that tiny little one piston caliper, with the other pads and larger rotor it will remain a little cooler so less fading but when it comes down to looks it's much better.

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great looking car. love the color ;)
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Default Roush Alcon rear rotors and bracket

When you install the Alcon rear brackets to hold the 13 inch rotor, do you need anything more if you have stock rear GT brakes. I was reading that the GT and cobra brakes (94-04) are the same, other than the support bracket being different which allows for a thicker rotor and thinner pad. My question is it required for this Ford support bracket to be changed from the GT version to the Cobra version to use this Alcon rear rotor/bracket upgrade? Also, do I have to change the Anti-moan bracket from the GT one to the Cobra one to use this Alcon rear brake upgrade. Thank you.
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Default Roush Alcon rear rotors and bracket

I think I may have the answer already. As seen in the first picture in this thread, I see that the caliper shown has the regular GT backing plate bracket and GT anti-moan brackets and not the Cobra ones, as the cobra one would place caliper about 1/2 inch further out from center hub. This rear kit was only designed for the GT brake set up, using upgraded cobra caliper support brackets (included in kit - F4ZZ-2B511-B). If using with a cobra rear brake set up, you would need to change to GT backing plate bracket and GT anti-moan brackets, also keeping your cobra caliper set up. Pads are the same for GT and Cobra.
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Default Roush rear brake kit - additional info

Got this Roush rear kit installed. Some things to keep in mind for each side: Hex head bolts mate the GT anti-moan brace, GT caliper mounting bracket (backing plate), and Roush bracket. Mating Roush bracket to Cobra caliper support bracket, there are 2 allen bolts, one long, one short. The long one goes in the upper hole, and the short one goes in the lower hole which is recessed. All bolts are m12 x 1.75. All in all kit was pretty self explanatory. The Roush rear rotors appear to have the same thickness as my GT rotors, so not sure why the kit requires changing the GT caliper support brackets to the Cobra ones, but looks better because it has that connecting bar on the face side.
Bad part is that these rear rotors are not made anymore. The only replacements that are still made are for the front Roush rotors, but they are not made by Alcon, but made by baer/eradispeed. I have both the front kit and rear kit, so on to the front. All this trouble is worth it to have 14 inch rotors up front when I am done. Hopefully mounting bracket for fronts are same spec as Saleen/Alcon calipers other than to make room for 1 more inch taller rotors, then I can just use the Roush front brackets and Roush/Alcon 14 inch front rotors mated with my Saleen/Alcon calipers, but that remains to be seen.
Wanted to go this route to somewhat maintain originality as my front Saleen/Alcon rotors are no bueno (slots barely visible) and wanted "Alcon" rotors. So, I went with Roush 14's up front and 13 in rear (all Alcon OE rotors). As the age of this thread indicates, this kit hasn't been around new for almost a decade from suppliers, and I jumped on them when I found them in almost new condition. If you are able to find this kit, odds are there are no instructions and install can be daunting. Thought might as well add what I learned.
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Default Roush front brakes

A note on the Roush front calipers. They are different then the saleen calipers slightly in that the "valley" where the rotors go is about 1/8 wider on the Roush front calipers allowing for a slightly wider front rotor. Long story short the Roush calipers and Roush 14 inch rotors will have to stay together. To modify the Saleen caliper would be extensive, they would have to be split, milled, new pistons possibly a different size. So yes I am going with the Roush front calipers, and rebrand to Saleen on my car and put the original stuff away. Oh well that was going to be too easy I thought.
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