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Default Q: 2011 SMS 302 production numbers & options?

Okay, heres the deal. I found a 2011 302 SMS Mustang for sale and have been trying to find out all I can about the car before I buy. I haven't found squat. I'd like to know production numbers, options, etc. Can't even find out what the car is worth. Not even a ballpark figure. Who can help? Anyone? Dash plaque is yellow and says 11-031. Car looks pretty plain jane and is non-sc. Please let me know what you know. Thanks Fellas!
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2011 SMS302 production began with a model that eventually became known as the Saleen S302 4-Valve Black Label. The 2011 models originally were not supercharged.

The exterior of these vehicles feature the complete styling kit, spoiler, hood, chrome wheels, series emblems and decals.

The performance enhancements are springs, shocks/struts, air filter, calibration and axle-back exhaust.

The interior features refoamed seats, chevron detailed seat covers, 200MPH speedometer, floor mats and logo sill plates. Some vehicles have the dash serialization plate, others do not. The original 2011 302 plates are yellow.

2011 model year S302 Mustangs were produced in both 2010 and 2011.

In late 2010 the White Label and Yellow Label models debuted. Eventually the color series reflects the dash serialization plate, I do not believe this coordination was immediately implemented. Also, a number of vehicles do not feature a dash serialization plate.
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I have 11-032 a Black Label. Not sure what package the car you are looking at has. I think I may still have the original window sticker, pre-supercharged price, for it somewhere. I'll look here shortly. Production numbers are a mystery. I am still waiting for my LOA. So what is the version of the car? Color? Have any pics of it?
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11-031 sounds like a White Label from the description.

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Yeah, thanks Dave. I was wondering if it was the Yellow or a NON-SC Black Label. My cars original sticker was for the Non-SC Black Label. It was upgraded to the SSC and I was told it would be registeredd as such in the registry.
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I wondered to John. The poster did send a PM with a detailed description of this vehicle. It appears to be White Label produced on a high option GT chassis.

I think your Black Label coupe will be interesting as the years pass since it will be one of a few SMS Mustangs correctly updated.
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Thanks for all the info Fellas.

I'll make them an offer on the car tomorrow. I made an offer on a SA15 last night and have to wait to hear back on it first. It's a long shot but one can always hope...
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No price on the car? Can;t they send you a copy of the Saleen invoice? Mine was sent to me as a PDF.
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There's a price on it. That's not the problem. I'm just trying to see if they have it listed for what its worth or if they are high or even low. Kinda hard to figure out when no one knows what its worth...
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Kinda hard to figure out when no one knows what its worth...
In the olden days the equation was: Market value for the used Mustang chassis + full cost of the Saleen conversion.
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So whatever NADA says a 2011 GT is worth with same mileage then add $6000 for the white label SMS package?
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So whatever NADA says a 2011 GT is worth with same mileage then add $6000 for the white label SMS package?
You are correct.
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Okay, heres the deal. I found a 2011 302 SMS Mustang for sale and have been trying to find out all I can about the car before I buy. I haven't found squat. I'd like to know production numbers, options, etc. Can't even find out what the car is worth. Not even a ballpark figure. Who can help? Anyone? Dash plaque is yellow and says 11-031. Car looks pretty plain jane and is non-sc. Please let me know what you know. Thanks Fellas!
Howdy! I bought the car and it will be here today!! It has basic white label stuff. 440 HP some emblems, spoiler but not the body kit or wheels or brakes. I will do that maybe if I get a nice bonus check one day but for now super stooked about it. I will write a better post with pics later this week.

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Howdy! I bought the car and it will be here today!! It has basic white label stuff. 440 HP some emblems, spoiler but not the body kit or wheels or brakes. I will do that maybe if I get a nice bonus check one day but for now super stooked about it. I will write a better post with pics later this week.
Enjoy your new car Mark!
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Thank you! I will post up a nice write up later in the week!
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Hi Dave:

You seem to know your stuff on these cars. It is 11 of 31 white label with bare bones but still cool and still a saleen! The engine mods to get to 440HP sounds like head work CAI of some kind and a tuner. Anything else like pulleys etc...? Also the work order shows dual exhaust with High performance mufflers. How far back did they go? Axle or CAT back? The car does seem to sit lower then the silly 4X4 stock but it is the S1 (starter kit) so springs, bushings and links? I wonder if it is lowered with a panhard thingy or what all that suspension upgrade entails. They seem to be minimalists when it comes to the info on the SMS sticker. Maybe because that is all it has :) So any light you can shed would be great thank YOU.

ps: Niche M137 Milan's are in the garage 20 x 10 1/2 backs with 285/30/20 and 20 x 8 1/2 with 255/35/20 fronts. Should help those "Plain Jane" stockers!
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You seem to know your stuff on these cars. It is 11 of 31 white label with bare bones but still cool and still a saleen! The engine mods to get to 440HP sounds like head work CAI of some kind and a tuner. Anything else like pulleys etc...? Also the work order shows dual exhaust with High performance mufflers. How far back did they go? Axle or CAT back? The car does seem to sit lower then the silly 4X4 stock but it is the S1 (starter kit) so springs, bushings and links? I wonder if it is lowered with a panhard thingy or what all that suspension upgrade entails. They seem to be minimalists when it comes to the info on the SMS sticker. Maybe because that is all it has :) So any light you can shed would be great thank YOU.
Hi Mark. I believe you and John are correct with your statements regarding the White Label model.

The power increase was achieved by an air filter, a premium fuel tune, 39lb fuel injectors (maybe) and cat-back exhaust.

The suspension consisted of "S4" springs (these may be silver in color), upgrade bushings, and sway bar end links.

Sometimes, the Saleen rear wing was mentioned as an option. Recently it was listed as a "delete" option. I have not seen a White Label without a wing. I might be mistaken, but I believe I have seen one White Label with an OE Ford rear wing.

The aftermarket parts department sold "cat-back" exhaust systems from the 2011 model run. I would "guess" the White Label ran the same systems as the upper models.

I would not expect an upgrade panhard bar.

The appearance upgrades are the front grill, rear taillight panel, rear spoiler, front and rear emblems, fender emblems, windshield banner and championship wreath.

Interior upgrades are the center horn logo emblem, 302 floor mats and shift knob. The early White Label cars do not feature the logoed headrest.

The White Label was a low cost Boss 302 alternative. The package was announced as a 2012 addition, but as you know these were produced on 2011 Mustangs as well. In 2012 and 2013 it appears the White Label package had a tendency to find their way onto very bare-bones Mustang GTs.

As you may know. Your Mustang GT is not bare-bones with regards to the equipment from Ford.

If you're looking for upgrades. Consider shopping for remaining overstock of the Saleen/Stoptech 14" rotors and 4-piston calipers.

When you fall into play money and if you bond with your car... I would consider the complete Black Label exterior styling kit.
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Grats! Post some pics.
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Sweety! A white, White Label. Anyone have a yellow, Yellow Label? We can put are three cars in a pic together...lol
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Sweety! A white, White Label. Anyone have a yellow, Yellow Label? We can put are three cars in a pic together...lol
My baby is not ready for her dabeu just yet :) Need some new slippers on her and TLC after a long carriage ride from Utah to Michigan.

It has NAV with a 6 speed manual 3:73 LSD out back. Should go pretty good only 15,000 miles on her.
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Here are the rims she will be getting tomorrow!

Putting Continental extreme contact DWS on her.
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Nice wheels... I don't believe there is any head work done to engine as far as I know you get a high flow airfilter - reusable, a recalibration of the engine, and a higher flowing exhaust system - mine has Gibson mufflers on it and its loud, especially on cold start up.
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I think it is all just the tune with cat back exhaust. I just got it off the carrier and the exhaust from the cats back is JUST like the BOSS302 so I bet it is similar tuning to that. So far she is a honey!!
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...higher flowing exhaust system - mine has Gibson mufflers on it and its loud, especially on cold start up.
This might be another running change. For some reason I want to say the 2010 460 and the early 2011 302 had exhaust by JBA .
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The wheels look very nice. Saleen has promised me a LOA. Hopefully that will get us some nymbers, at least for the Black Labels. John, who did you talk to at Carslile?

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I like it. Time to modify. :)
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Yup! It might never stop!
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So I have compiled a list of 2011 SMS/Saleens. Data is complete. If you can fill the blanks, please do to incluse usernames for site and real name if known. You can post or PM if you like. I also gathered through 2013, but many holes. I can post if you like.

Year----------------------Model-----------------------Body---------------Color----------------------------Username----------------Notes
11-0001EU-------------- Black Label-------------- Coupe--------__Lizstick Red/Silver-------------------------------------------In Sweedon had Twin Turbo system installed.
11-0012------------------ Black Label-------------- Coupe--------__Black/Silver---------------------------------------------------Different hood vents? No qtr window trim. Chrome wheels stock GT strut tower brace.
11-0015------------------Black Label--------------- Coupe--------__Unknown
11-0019------------------Unknown----------------- Coupe--------__ Unknown
11-0020------------------Unknown----------------- Convertible---- Unknown----------------------------------------------------- 1ZVBP8FF0B5117496
11-0022------------------Unknown----------------- Unknown------ Unknown
11-0023------------------Black Label--------------- Coupe--------__Red/Silver
11-0024------------------ Black Label SC---------- Coupe--------__Red/Silver----------------------- SMS#24Stang
11-0026------------------Black Label--------------- Coupe--------__Silver/Black----------------------------------------------------Chrome wheels.
11-0031------------------White Label------------- Coupe--------__White/Black----------------------Kazoo DUDE
11-0032------------------Black Label SC----------- Coupe--------__Black/Silver----------------------- Werecow
11-0037------------------Black Label--------------- Coupe--------__Unknown
11-0039------------------Black Label--------------- Coupe--------__Grey/Silver-----------------------------------------------------GT500 Hood, Chrome wheels, bright trim
11-xxxx------------------ White Label--------------Coupe--------__ Unknown-----------------------------------------------------_ 1ZVBP8CF5B5158095 (early model)
11-xxxx------------------ White Label-------------- Convertible---- Black/Silver----------------------------------------------------Could be 11-0020?
11-xxxx ------------------Black Label-------------- Coupe--------__Gray/Silver----------------------------------------------------- Could be 11-0039. photo with no hood only differnece being 11-0039 has bright trim work, this car does not in the only photo.
11-xxxx------------------ Unknown----------------- Coupe--------__Black/Silver---------------------------------------------------- Photo with no front facia.
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wow. This is all that was produced? Can this be confirmed? These cars are rare rare if this is correct.
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Glad to see someone is keeping track of these. I'm trying to keep track of the 2011 Speedlab cars but finding them is hard, never mind finding out about options.
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wow. This is all that was produced? Can this be confirmed? These cars are rare rare if this is correct.
Saleen stinks at getting back to us owners. But my guess is it is more then just these since not all owners get on line and on the forum. But it would be interesting to know exactly how many were made.

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Newbie to site but wanted to let you know that I have SMS 11-29. Ordering the letter of authenticity tomorrow. Pics are on my profile
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Newbie to site but wanted to let you know that I have SMS 11-29. Ordering the letter of authenticity tomorrow. Pics are on my profile
Very nice S302 Black Label.
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Very nice S302 Black Label.
Thank you. The whole label thing is confusing. I bought it a year and a half ago from dealership. They said 1 owner. Only had 3k miles on it.
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I can't confirm these as the actual production numbers. These are just the ones I have seen here, or at shows or on sale various places. I listed 12's and 13's too, but I didn't post them as the question was about the 11's. I have pictures of some as well.
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Last night I spoke with the previous owner of my 2011- #31 White label SMS and he tells me he bought it new from the ford store and it was #31 of 250! I asked how did he know the total production and he said it was told to him by ford and SMS. I guess back then SMS was a little more desperate, I mean willing to answer questions.

So I think he is right that there were 250 units made in 2011.

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I tend to get around and dont see these out there. I would be very surprised if they made 250. I have heard there were a good amount unsold. That could be part of not seeing them around
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I know! There are so few of them that searches turn up the same "Release" pictures and not much else. 11-037 is for sale at a PA ford store but other then that I only saw one silver one and could not see the number so know idea what it was. 250 does not seem high since the ford stores order them on speculation sometimes and at some point need to unload them even if it is at a loss. Anyone else try to contact the aloof SALEEN or SMS company for an answer on this? I did three times by e mail, no reply. Calling gets voice mail!!!

I hope they are actually that busy.
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I would like to believe that Saleen Sold 250 cars in 2011 alone, but I doubt it. You would think there would be more owners here if there were that many of them out there.
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So what is the cause of the problem? Does the oil seperator help this and how?
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I have had the oil separator on my car for some time and don't see much oil in it.

Are there any recalls I should know about to take the car into FORD?
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Well what happens (from what I read) is the passanger side PCV valve takes the gasses and some oil when driven hard back into the manifold to be re burned. My pistons are baked on with carbon or crude and I have actually seen oil on my PCV hose before. It sometimes smells of oil as well. I get it today and will give you my thoughts on it soon. Also having the TSB 11-3-18 fluid swap done today and the guys are all excited to have the first SMS in their shop so they plan to go thorught thte car with a "Fine tooth comb" to see if there is something more to why I have brownie batter on my pistons! I do like brownies just not on my pistons! :)
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I have had the oil separator on my car for some time and don't see much oil in it.

Are there any recalls I should know about to take the car into FORD?
You must not be whooping the cars a$$ like it was meant to be :) It only happens at red line of close to it. Again, I will put it on tonight and take a few pics as well as take it for a ride the next couple of days and see if any oil collects.

Go to www.americanmuscle.com under oil filters and see their video on a gt500.
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I get on mine pretty hard, from time to time...
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I get on mine pretty hard, from time to time...

I was teasing you :) Will let you know what the results are when I have them.
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That is a descent amount of oil.
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That is a descent amount of oil.

For one day!! It has collected that much each day!!!!! Took a 200 mile trip Sunday and had to pour the oil out!!

I like that it is not going back into my intake!! Worth the $115.
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Can't you just put it back in the car?
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Can't you just put it back in the car?
No I think it has been vaporized so it has changed its compound in some way not sure how bad it would be if at all but I just wipe it out with a paper towel and call it good. It is not enough to make the car low on oil so I just pitch it.
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Found that the #8 cylinder failed the pvc pressure check. They preformed another compression test and #8 was 50 psi lower then the rest this time. So all 302 owners check your plugs for oil problems. My new short blook is in process of being broken in. Then to Saleen to check and adjust the engine to it orginal high output.
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