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Q: 4.6 2-Valve Series I power numbers?
What are you 2v owners who are not forged seeing for RWHP. I am sending My series 1 out next week for a rebuild and port, I will also be having a 66mm pulley and a Mafia air meter installed.
I already have a heat sheild installed, a 75mm Throttle body and walburn fuel pump. I am just trying to get a idea what I might see when everything is installed?
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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I think mine made about 300 rwhp with Series 1. It made 361/393 Theo with Series 4 and listed mods.
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2001 Saleen S281-SC Oxford White #01-0720 Fully Forged Rebuild 6/14 Series IV w/ pulley boys 2.8 pulley Trikpony Intercooler Heatshield Mosaleen Idler Pulley 42# injectors Supercar fuel pump w/ wiring mod 90mm MAF 75mm Throttle Body NGK Tr6 BBK O/R X-Pipe 13" Cobra front brakes MGW shifter 7" DVD player 376hp/395tq Series I gone!! Former-2000 Contour SVT T3/T4 TURBO-315 fwhp! |
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I'm making 661rwhp and 630rwtq right now with my Saleen Series 5 blower.:D
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'99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-351 #37 "FASLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-281SC #201 "SLOLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN/COBRA S-281 #320 |
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I made 412rwhp with a series 2 blower
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Just looking at your Sig... 4.75 stroker? What kind of block you running? 5.4?
Nice power though, especially wuth a series II |
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its a stock 4.6 cast iron block. Its a Rotating Assembly from Modular Mustang Racing.
Yeah I was pretty happy with those numbers out of a series II |
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Sure that is not a 3.75" stroker? What displacement is the motor now? I guess you will be putting down a lot more now.
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I'm sure it's a 4.75. I am currently running the MMR1000 4.75 Stroker in my car as well.
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'99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-351 #37 "FASLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-281SC #201 "SLOLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN/COBRA S-281 #320 |
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The 4.75 stroker on MMR's site is the displacement, not the stroke....
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Black 89 Saleen #05. 345 horsepower FRPP motor, Holley Systemax, 6 spd tranny, Chrome Saleens 18x9/10's, 3.73's. 288 rwhp, 297 rwtq. |
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2.8" sc pulley, ARH 1 3/4" long tubes, no cats, and a tune. 357hp/359tq. I installed the 03/04 Cobra dual fuel pump set up. No intake though.
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What compression you running if you don't mind me asking?
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What did you do for injectors and MAF?
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Stock. I assume the injectors were the ones Saleen installed. They're... Red or orange? I forget.
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333rwhp - 350ft/lbs, series 2 blower rest of my mods listed in sig
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I have an 03, #022 with a cold air and off road x pipe and it made 302hp and 354 torque.
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913rwhp, but who's counting anyways?
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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913RWHP from the trailer to the show parking lot. Was the car driver friendly? |
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No, actually it sucked. Completely uncontrolable. But not my race car I'm building with 800rwhp!
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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back to true 2v numbers :) I now have 310 rwhp and 339 ft lbs
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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When I am ready to add a few more pony's, are cams worth the money or would heads be the way to go?
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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Jason would be one of the best to chime in hear, but I would believe porting the heads and cams at the same time would be great. Not sure I would pay for the TFS heads unless I were to put a 302 stroker under them. From what I have read, they seem to do better with the larger bored blocks, but Jason has more practicle experience with these things...lol What kind of power you looking for? Replacing the series one with a larger head unit, or even a KB might be another option worth looking into.
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I would like to be around 360 RWHP, But have been disappointed everytime I add something, everything tells you what you should see and they are WAY OFF.
Like this last time I was at 285 RWHP with 190 degree AIT's at 5800 rpm, so I installed heat shield, had blower Ported by Stiegemeier and chicane 66mm pulley. Now I have AIT's of 136 Degrees at 5800 with 310 RWHP. a gain of only 25 HP when each and every item I added said it would add between 20 and 30 each. It is a conservative tune at 17 degrees timing and AF of 11.8 at wot, not sure if a different tuner would get much more from it or not?
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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Before doing a larger blower, I'd focus more on the heads and cams if you want. The 2v heads are extremely restrictive. Add more boost you'll just fight the restriction.
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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Port and polish those heads and you'll never look back. Oversized valves would be a great move too.
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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396 RWHP/401ft/lb torque with a Stiegemeier ported Stage II blower, Tork Tech intake & oval throttle body, 40lb injecters, BBK CAI and stock Saleen intercooler and about 190 AIT (No intercoooler heat shield), 13 psi boost. Kenne Bell boost-a-pump. Pro Dyno tune. Probably about 25 RWHP if I could get those intake temps down in the high 130's.
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New build
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I just bought an MMR 750 SE stroked short block with cut pistons for stage 3 cams. I want to see these numbers when I am done. I have long tube headers, rebuilt stage two blower, 2.8 pulley, h pipe, 373 gears. Can you give me the recipe of what else I should get while the engine is being installed this week. For example, Mass air meter, fuel injectors, boost pump etc. I don't want to be disappointed when I go get it tuned. I will be happy with 500 or more. Thanks |
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I would buy ported pi heads over the TFS heads any day. I never really liked what I read and apparently they are a pain in the **** if you have a kenne bell because you have to clearance a lot. I'd love a set of ported heads with bigger valves.
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'99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-351 #37 "FASLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN S-281SC #201 "SLOLEEN" '99 MUSTANG SALEEN/COBRA S-281 #320 |
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Honestly bro it will be really hard to see anything close to 500rwhp with the Series 2 Saleen blower. On my previous setup I ran a Saleen Series 4 Supercharger, built motor, port/polished PI heads, hp292 cams, full bolt ons, tune, and the car only made 443rwhp. If you really want more advice feel free to call/text me anytime and ill be glad to guide you in the right path man, 832-790-0950.[/QUOTE]
Sounds great where are you located so I know the time difference because I am in Orlando Fl. How about Procharger D-1SC, or Paxton Novi 2000 don,t want to cough up $7000 for a Mammoth KB and I still need to purchase fuel pumps, injectors, tune. |
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Paxton Novi 2000 for the win!!!
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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Paxton Novi 2000 for the win!!![/QUOTE]
Thanks jason You know anyone with a used kit. Looks like Paxton Novi it is. |
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This thread went way off
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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Thanks jason
You know anyone with a used kit. Looks like Paxton Novi it is.[/QUOTE] Give me a call or email, we should prob keep the thread on topic.
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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I have the series II and im wondering the same thing
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Give me a call and we'll discuss.
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Jason | 281 Motorsports NO PM'S - PLEASE CALL | 714-575-1505 1996 Cobra Vortech SC / Track prepped 2015 Coyote Powered F-150 Check out our facility promo video here: http://bit.ly/1yHNfxM Email: 281motorsports@gmail.com Web: www.ProSpeedMustang.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/mustangperformance Youtube: http://bit.ly/1zOxanf "Doing the job right...is the ONLY option we offer!" |
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I'm at 300rwhp with a Series 1
I don't have many mods either. Previous owner had it on the dyno. |
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Thats great numbers from a series 1 with automatic, or my first tuner was not very good. I was putting down 305 at the wheels with my series 1 ported and polished by Steig, 42 lb bosch injectors, tunable induction CAI , 66mm pulley, 70mm TB, 90 mm mass air, Mosaleen idler and Bassani high flow mid pipe.
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2000-0793 265 lph fuel pump Bassani highflow Mid Pipe Kennebell 2.1L intercooled kit with big air intake tube, CAI and 90 mm mass air PA Competition series automatic with 2800 stall and 3.55's 31 spline Diff with Moser axles and Swars axle tube support system Ford Racing Aluminum Drive shaft w/stifflers loop UPR Chrome moly K-Member with A-arms UPR Coilovers on front with Strange Adj Struts 21st century H.E. Fluidyne Radiator 400 RWHP & 415 Ft lbs of torque |
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lets bump this thread!
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Why bump, you don't have a series I supercharger on your 2002.
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I was just kidding with that post.
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My Build: http://saleenforums.soec.org/showthread.php?t=6881 Wind Deflector: http://www.saleenforums.soec.org/showthread.php?t=12930 |
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Well, since you bumped it...
Let's see if I remember everything... FMS Throttle Body, 90 MM Lightning MAF, MoSaleen Pulley, 66mm Chicane pulley, 42 pound injectors, Bassani mid-length headers with cats, focus fuel pump and SCT chip with tune by Big Daddy Performance in Lakewood NJ. I know the RWHP was 337, I think the RWTQ was around 415, I have to find the sheet somewhere.. Pretty conservative tune... |
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Only reason i ask is if there was a major difference between both upgrades. Ive got the 66mm pulley and MAF and pump ready to go just need the injectors and maybe the pulley and tuner and ill be ready to fly again! |
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On my 99, the 66mm pulley was installed several years before the MoSaleen idler was added. Hard to tell if the idler made a dramatic change since it was added along with most of the other changes and dyno tuned at the same time. I do know several owners who installed the idler by itself and noticed a difference in the car.
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