Oil Seperator - Catch Can

[03SaleenSC]

I am looking to get an oil seperator/catch can for my 2007 S/C Saleen but I do not know which one to get. I have heard of the problems with the JLT/Saleens ones so I dont want to waste my time with one of them. What does everyone reccomend? I would prefer one made for a mustang so it is all plug and play

[XxBoostinxX]

Call Jason and get the Moroso. I am very impressed with it and it works really really well! It is a little bit bigger than the others but did I say it WORKS. It also has a drain plug on the bottom of it that makes it easy to get the oil out.

[Gray is Grey]

http://www.haneymotorsport.com/HMS%2...atch%20Can.htm

[03SaleenSC]

Originally Posted by XxBoostinxX

Call Jason and get the Moroso. I am very impressed with it and it works really really well! It is a little bit bigger than the others but did I say it WORKS. It also has a drain plug on the bottom of it that makes it easy to get the oil out.

Havent heard of this one.... Ill have to look into it... Do you have a link I could look at?

Originally Posted by Gray is Grey

http://www.haneymotorsport.com/HMS%2...atch%20Can.htm

This one says backordered and I cant click the buy now button

[XxBoostinxX]

Originally Posted by 03SaleenSC

Havent heard of this one.... Ill have to look into it... Do you have a link I could look at?

Here ya go bud: Click Me

I'll see if I can a pic of it installed. I know I have one somewhere....

[hazmat]

I'm also going with the Moroso unit. Just waiting on it to ship out on 7-2.

[Nightstalker]

Originally Posted by Gray is Grey

http://www.haneymotorsport.com/HMS%2...atch%20Can.htm

That is a clean & trick setup. Nice!!

[Jason @ 281m]

This one says backordered and I cant click the buy now button[/QUOTE]

To my knowledge, they have been out of business for a few years now. We just tryed calling, the main number is disconnected and the toll free goes to some loan company.

[06281E]

The best.. If you can afford it! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/catego...catchcans.html

I wanted the Mckinny but i guess they went out of business. What i notice about all the cheap cans is that they don't do much for filtration and a lot of the blow by goes back into your intake tract even with the can only because the inlet and out are not seperated and that causes the vapor with oil just go through both sides back into your intake. The ideal can will have two different locations for the inlet/outlet so that the oil has to fall through a chamber and won't get sucked back into your intake. The 42DD does this but for a lot of money, the Simota looks good but too ricey with all the blue hoses and carbon fiber, and then theres the Saikou Michi which also looks good but just has too much options and they don't show you the inside. If you don't see the inside most likely you are paying for junk. I have the UPR and i need to get a real CATCH can as it lets oil through the other end of the hose.

[OneQwkStang]

Originally Posted by 06281E

The best.. If you can afford it! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/catego...catchcans.html

Anyone use this, does it really work, if so I'm ordering two.

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by OneQwkStang

Anyone use this, does it really work, if so I'm ordering two.

These look like well designed units. I would want to see the integration of the filter media inside as that is what really counts, not how pretty the outside looks. But IMHO, these are over kill for most Saleen owners under 15psi.

[OneQwkStang]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

These look like well designed units. I would want to see the integration of the filter media inside as that is what really counts, not how pretty the outside looks. But IMHO, these are over kill for most Saleen owners under 15psi.

So how does 281 motorsports stop oil from entering the blower from the pvc systems?

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by OneQwkStang

So how does 281 motorsports stop oil from entering the blower from the pvc systems?

The Moroso unit works very well. On high PSI systems, we've build a pressurized catch can for both PCV systems on the valve covers. We are going to be building one for our Speedster.

[OneQwkStang]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

The Moroso unit works very well. On high PSI systems, we've build a pressurized catch can for both PCV systems on the valve covers. We are going to be building one for our Speedster.

I'm running 11 to 12 psi, Moroso will stop all oil from going into my blower from both valve covers?

[06281E]

Originally Posted by OneQwkStang

I'm running 11 to 12 psi, Moroso will stop all oil from going into my blower from both valve covers?

I would say that any of the standard catch cans would get at least 75% of the oil from going into the intake tract. I don't think any standard system even the 42DD would be good for 100% but anything is better than nothing. Running a 2 can system would probably get you to that 99% filtered range, I'm talking about 2 cans on each valve cover... Depends how far you are willing to go

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by 06281E

I would say that any of the standard catch cans would get at least 75% of the oil from going into the intake tract. I don't think any standard system even the 42DD would be good for 100% but anything is better than nothing. Running a 2 can system would probably get you to that 99% filtered range, I'm talking about 2 cans on each valve cover... Depends how far you are willing to go

Well said Oren. If you run one on both, its more like 90%. The only way to get 99% is to run a pressurized system. We have run the Moroso units and for $137 it does an awesome job! For most cars, its a perfect setup.

[OneQwkStang]

Guess ill be keeping my valve cover breathers LOL

[06281E]

Originally Posted by OneQwkStang

Guess ill be keeping my valve cover breathers LOL

Nothing wrong with that, except that the oil has to go somewhere and sometimes that's all over your engine bay and valve covers.. Just get a 42DD or the Moroso and empty it once a month.

[OneQwkStang]

Originally Posted by 06281E

Nothing wrong with that, except that the oil has to go somewhere and sometimes that's all over your engine bay and valve covers.. Just get a 42DD or the Moroso and empty it once a month.

Hasn't made a mess yet, just smells once and awhile.

[XxBoostinxX]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

Well said Oren. If you run one on both, its more like 90%. The only way to get 99% is to run a pressurized system. We have run the Moroso units and for $137 it does an awesome job! For most cars, its a perfect setup.

Quick question on my Moroso unit Jason. Is there a way to run both intake lines to the one Moroso unit or do you recommend adding a second unit? I would hate to clutter up the engine bay any more but if I have to I will.

[Gray is Grey]

Originally Posted by XxBoostinxX

Quick question on my Moroso unit Jason. Is there a way to run both intake lines to the one Moroso unit or do you recommend adding a second unit? I would hate to clutter up the engine bay any more but if I have to I will.

Interesting thought. It would defeat the "P" in PCV, but would put a vacuum on your crankcase and might help decrease the air pressure under the pistons giving you a little power but I am not sure what would happen as far as oil in the intake.

I would just put a breather on the passenger side and cap off the intake tube. That is how I run and have been dry for years. That is until a month ago when I forgot to drain the can.

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by XxBoostinxX

Quick question on my Moroso unit Jason. Is there a way to run both intake lines to the one Moroso unit or do you recommend adding a second unit? I would hate to clutter up the engine bay any more but if I have to I will.

I would think you would be expecting too much from one small catch can. Besides, talk about clutter...think about runing a hose from one side of the engine to the other. Buy a second one, their cheap enough.

[07s281sc]

I use the UPR catch can, works great and collects a fair amount of oil. Mine is powdercoated black for a more stock like finish.

[Stanghungry]

check with tim (Coderedsaleen) I bought mine from him and he even had SMS engraved real nice on the top of mine

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by SMS#24Stang

check with tim (Coderedsaleen) I bought mine from him and he even had SMS engraved real nice on the top of mine

Those are made by the same company that makes Saleens and JLT's it looks like.

[Coderedsaleen]

No, mine are made by another company and they work great. I don't know what problems other people are having but I have not had any.

[Saleen12c]

No one mentioned the Saleen catch can... Anything wrong with it?
http://speedlab.saleen.com/store_con...roduct_id=7281

[Gray is Grey]

Originally Posted by Saleen12c

No one mentioned the Saleen catch can... Anything wrong with it?
http://speedlab.saleen.com/store_con...roduct_id=7281

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by Saleen12c

No one mentioned the Saleen catch can... Anything wrong with it?
http://speedlab.saleen.com/store_con...roduct_id=7281

Nothing is wrong with it. It's a great plug n play piece. Due to its size the media amount is small and isn't a perfect catch for the oil vapors. But again, depending on your usage, it may be fine to use one of them, especially if you want something with a 3 second install time.

Coderedsaleen, they look identical from the pictures so I assumed the same company was making them.

[Stanghungry]

I will have mine installed this week and will post some pictures of the catch can and the engraved fuse cover that Tim did also........

[XxBoostinxX]

Originally Posted by Gray is Grey

Lol!!!!!!!

[Saleen12c]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

Nothing is wrong with it. It's a great plug n play piece. Due to its size the media amount is small and isn't a perfect catch for the oil vapors. But again, depending on your usage, it may be fine to use one of them, especially if you want something with a 3 second install time.

Coderedsaleen, they look identical from the pictures so I assumed the same company was making them.

It's for me then...

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by Saleen12c

It's for me then...

Let me know and we can ship it our cheap way!

[Coderedsaleen]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

Nothing is wrong with it. It's a great plug n play piece. Due to its size the media amount is small and isn't a perfect catch for the oil vapors. But again, depending on your usage, it may be fine to use one of them, especially if you want something with a 3 second install time.

Coderedsaleen, they look identical from the pictures so I assumed the same company was making them.

Well assume all you want, they are not made from the same company.

Originally Posted by Saleen12c

It's for me then...

Just let me know if you are interested and I can get one shipped out to you. Better yet send me a PM and I can hook you up with something added to it.

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

Let me know and we can ship it our cheap way!

Who said he was talking about one of yours? Maybe he would like one of mine? He said that he liked the 3 second install type like mine.

[06281E]

Originally Posted by Coderedsaleen

Well assume all you want, they are not made from the same company.

Just let me know if you are interested and I can get one shipped out to you. Better yet send me a PM and I can hook you up with something added to it.

Who said he was talking about one of yours? He said that he liked the 3 second install type like mine.

The "Saleen" one (not 281 Motorsports item) is a direct plug and play with OEM ford fittings that installs in 3 seconds and looks identical to the can you have. They are all made by the same company with the same design that i don't like and if yours is made from a different company than it is simply a copy, I'll bet down to the internals. I run one from UPR (also same design) but they are not the best for removing the oil vapors because of the straight through design.

[Jason @ 281m]

Originally Posted by Saleen12c

It's for me then...

Fair enough, but they look identical. I guess its a possibility that if JLT doesnt manufacture theres, maybe they are getting it made at the same place.

Originally Posted by Coderedsaleen

Well assume all you want, they are not made from the same company.


Who said he was talking about one of yours? He said that he liked the 3 second install type like mine.

If you look back, we had been holding a conversation and in his last message he quoted my response and was chatting with me, or atleast it would appear that way to most. He can buy it from you if he chooses, Its really not a big deal to us and certainly not a big enough deal to get all worked up about. Just so you know, I wasnt trying to cut in on your sales.

[Coderedsaleen]

It is not staight though... what are you talking about? Straight though would be like a tube with a filter inbetween. Air/Oil enter into the can though one side makes a U sort of then the oil drops to the bottom, then makes it way though the filter and back out the other side. For the size and design it works well for the common driver. I am sure everyone has an opinion of what works best for thier setup.

As far as who makes mine... I do not know who makes the others I just know who makes the ones that I have.

[Coderedsaleen]

Originally Posted by Jason @ 281m

Fair enough, but they look identical. I guess its a possibility that if JLT doesnt manufacture theres, maybe they are getting it made at the same place.



If you look back, we had be holding a conversation and in his last message he quoted my response and was chatting with me, or atleast it would appear that way to most. He can buy it from you if he chooses, Its really not a big deal to us and certainly not a big enough deal to get all worked up about. Just so you know, I wasnt trying to cut in on your sales.

I am not getting worked up at all.

[06281E]

Originally Posted by Coderedsaleen

It is not staight though... what are you talking about? Straight though would be like a tube with a filter inbetween. Air/Oil enter into the can though one side makes a U sort of then the oil drops to the bottom, then makes it way though the filter and back out the other side. For the size and design it works well for the common driver. I am sure everyone has an opinion of what works best for thier setup.

As far as who makes mine... I do not know who makes the others I just know who makes the ones that I have.

It is straight through, this is your picture.. Look at the 2 hoses going in one side and out the other. Now think about vacuum pressure inside the can sucking the air and oil, yes some of the oil falls to the bottom from the weight but at least 30% or more of it is going straight through the hose and into the intake, if you take off the hose at the intake after 1,000 miles you will see a nice amount of oil in the hose where it is supposed to be filtered out. Now i am not saying that a little oil on your supercharger is bad, it might actually lubricate it some but there are other cans out there that filter more of the oil out of the intake tract. For instance the McKinney can (out of business) had a tube going down into the filter media at the bottom of the can, and then the hose to the intake was at the top so the oil would go all the way to the bottom where the filter media sits and would not climb up to the top of the can where the vacuum pressure was being generated by the intake.

[Coderedsaleen]

Yeah I understand what you are saying.

To get 99.9% of the oil not to go back into the intake you will be spending alot more money when you can still prevent 1/2 or 3/4 of it for half the price.

Some like it and some don't, works for some and don't work of others. I try to give my customers a choice with what I have to work with. Since I am just one man with a small business. Just have to start somewhere, I have all the products that I sell on my own cars and very pleased with them all.

[Stanghungry]

I received my two clamps I ordered for the catch and almost ready to install it. I attached a picture for everyone to see. Tim at GTperformance was nice enought to send me the information on the screws for the top and told me I could find them at Lowes and he was correct.

If you go to Lowes to buy the screws they are item#138634 and cost about 80 cents. I also installed them on the can.


Thanks Again Tim

[07SaleenSC]

The Saleen unit uses plastic fittings. Both sides broke on mine within the first week. POS in my opinion. The ones Coderedsaleen looks to have metal fittings.

[Gray is Grey]

Originally Posted by 07SaleenSC

The Saleen unit uses plastic fittings. Both sides broke on mine within the first week. POS in my opinion. The ones Coderedsaleen looks to have metal fittings.

Please refer to post #28

[Stanghungry]

The one from Tim has metal fittings and is great.

[07SaleenSC]

Originally Posted by Gray is Grey

Please refer to post #28

Looked at post #28 but it didn't seem to have anything posted. The Saleen catch can uses black plastic barb fittings that screw into the can. They break, easily. I had to replace mine with stronger ones from Home Depot. The positioning of the Saleen can is also problematic as you cannot easily get the bottom off to drain it given its location. I re-engineered mine with longer hoses so that it is in a more place that it can be gotten to. Don't buy the Saleen one.